If..., then...

This week, we are learning about discrimination in design.

Remember, discrimination is when a person or group of people are treated unfairly because of who they are. The reasons for discrimination could be things like age, race or gender.


Rewatch the learning zone video about discrimination in design. You can find both videos here.

Pick ONE of the examples and complete this paragraph:

"If this problem does not get fixed, then...."

Think of what might happen because of this accidental discrimination.

Try to sum up your thoughts in NO MORE than THREE SENTENCES.

Comments (91)

  • British Council.jpg incredible_trumpet | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    Am going with pulse oximeters because its an equipment used both at home and in hospitals, it usually shows wrong readings for black people because of our color and sometimes the melanin in our body affects it leading to inaccurate readings and most times higher than normal. When this occurs doctors tend to treat patients based on the readings without the knowledge that it is wrong and this causes an indirect form of drug abuse especially when the patients are given drugs that are not for their sickness or they may not be sick but because of the results are forced to follow doctors prescriptions. If this problem does not get fixed it can lead to high mortality rate, mental conditions because of drugs administered, loss of jobs because the doctor can be blamed for wrong diagnosis when it was not completely his/her fault and also waste of resources, there was a time in my school were this device gave wrong readings to people with darker skin than the others causing the school to treat them for the wrong illness.

  • British Council.jpg champion_elephant | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    I will be picking the issue of self driving cars, if this problem does not get fixed, then they will be a large number of accidents in the society. People will also feel insecure about their color and other things like that.

  • British Council.jpg champion_elephant | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    I will be picking the problem about automatic dispensers, if this problem is not solved people might think it is an intentional effort from the producers to aid the growth of racism which is not true. The companies accused with this claim might have to shut down their bussinesses.

  • British Council.jpg champion_elephant | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    I will be picking the problem of oximeters, if this problem is not solved then it can lead to a decline in the number of medical practitioners in the sense that when an oximeter should make a wrong diagnosis people will think it is the doctors fault leading to the doctor loosing her job. It can also cause a decline in population if the wrong diagnosis is not realized early enough

  • British Council.jpg constructive_moth | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    If the problem of discrimination in self-driving cars does not get fixed, then people with dark skin will be more likely to get hit by self-driving cars than white people because automated vehicles are less likely to detect people with darker skin tones. This means that the number of black people that die on the road will increase and this will create fear for safety in the minds of potential buyers of this product causing a decline in the demand for self-automated cars, mostly among the black population and this will mean loss of money for the manufacturers of the product.

  • British Council.jpg sincere_spring | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed then I think that self-driving cars should not be used at all. Self-driving cars are a result of technological advancement and I believe that technology is supposed to make life easy for all( all skin tones) and not some( lighter skin tones only). If self-driving cars do not fulfill this purpose and even sometimes end up crashing into innocent black pedestrians, then they should not be used at all.

    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      sincere_spring's comment 23 Mar 2022

      An original answer, sincere_spring. Why is it so important to fix it?

      1. British Council.jpg tough_cicada | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
        Tom @ Topical Talk's comment 23 Mar 2022

        If there is a high-tech and luxurious car and a simple accident happened with a cheap and worn out car, the law will punish the person who drives the worn out car even if the fault is on the rich person and he gets away with his act, and this is an example of bias

        1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
          tough_cicada's comment 24 Mar 2022

          Do you have evidence to prove this happens, tough_cicada?

          1. British Council.jpg tough_cicada | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
            Katie @ Topical Talk's comment 28 Mar 2022

            There is a lot of evidence around the world, but on a personal level, it abounds in Arab countries, unfortunately. I hope that truth will prevail and justice will be achieved in all societies, and everyone will get what he deserves, even if I am at fault, regardless of my circumstances.
            Our vision is to improve for the better, so that our societies can rise and love prevail, and we will get rid of the bad phenomena that are prevalent in our world

      2. British Council.jpg sincere_spring | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
        Tom @ Topical Talk's comment 25 Mar 2022

        I believe purpose of technology is to make life easier for everyone and not complicated for some. It is important to fix this problem because self-driving cars do not fulfill this purpose. They are complicating the lives of those whose skin color they can't detect. Another reason is, when a driver should crashes into a pedestrian the driver is expected to pay a fine or maybe defend the incident and if the driver is found guilty, the driver will be punished but with self driving cars, the case is different. No one can ask a self-driving car to pay a fine neither can anyone punish a self-driving car. It will also be a step forward to fighting discrimination in general.

    2. British Council.jpg ambitious_bell | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
      sincere_spring's comment 24 Mar 2022

      You're right, cars in this case will be useless and not serve their primary purpose.

  • Graveney-logo-250x250.jpg outgoing_orange | Graveney School | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed, then it will provide a big problem for people like doctors to determine how someone's health is, and there could be car accidents because the car will not know when to stop because it can't detect certain people. Hygiene would also be low because the soap dispensers would not work on certain people so many things would affect society if the problem does not get fixed.

  • British Council.jpg constructive_moth | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    23 Mar 2022

    If the problem of crime-fighting algorithms is not fixed, then it may lead to the imprisonment of innocent black people for crimes they know nothing of and this is an infringement of the right of a person not to be imprisoned or detained without good reason and it will cause a lot of money to compensate citizens who have been wrongfully detained.

  • Graveney-logo-250x250.jpg digital_wildcat | Graveney School | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed, then an astonishing amount of lives could be loss, they could die of the faulty oximeters, or end up in a car accident as of the discriminating self-driving cars and the soap dispensers, this problem could easily spread and cause diseases with unclean hands. This should never happen!

  • Cheam Fields logo articulate_rock | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    If the problem of facial recognition does not get fixed, then people may me mistaken for who they are not, this is bad because then, someone might get older and when their features start to change, they are not recognised so cannot get into their device. Also, someone may have stolen that other person's device, if they are mistaken for the other person, that they can get into all of the private info.

  • Cheam Fields logo sympathetic_swan | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed, then I think that we should not use automatic cars. I think we should not use it because people with dark skin will be more likely to get hit by self-driving cars than white people because automated vehicles are less likely to detect people with darker skin tones. Another reason why we should not have automatic cars because if they crash on a black person, then an innocent person would get injured very bad and we do not want this.

  • British Council.jpg artistic_context | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If the problen of crime_ fighting aglorithims does not fix, then many black people could be jailed or arrested in false sentences and unreal crimes. As a result, injustice will previal and many courts will not be able to judge fairly according to the institutional law. Real criminals will enjoy the life meanwhile the victims of black people are jailed for a crime that they did not commite. This is an up side down situation that puts the black people in a hard situation that they may be prisoned or sentenced wrongly. Here technology discriminates between people and misleads the rights by confusing the good with evil. Just now we could realize the curse of technology!

  • British Council.jpg nice_coconut | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If the facial recognition does not work, them many people can make use this as a tecniques for steeling smart phones, or hacking the information system of some people. This could violate the privacy and personal issues through exploring the world the world of the real owner and discovering all the secrets and may lead to provocation or blackmail. It could also lead to a more criminal case, like using this trick to decieve others by impersonating the character of some important, famous or influential persons to commite crimes or break the law by doing unethical things. Moreover, thieves can inter the financial accounts for others via the same facial recognition to steal their credit cards or bank accounts. The descrimination in facial recognition lead to unexpected things that can either harm the black people themselves or harm the others around them!

  • British Council.jpg involved_trombone | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed then I think we should not use the sensor for the presence of hands under the dryer or soap dispenser as it turns on automatically without touching. Devices that include a sensor are supposed to be available to everyone (with all skin tones) and not biased to some "if skin color is white, for example" Dark-skinned people have difficulty with utilities, and it can put them in an awkward position, in which case there are no controls for taps, hand dryers, or soap dispensers, isn't that a bias? And distinguish between humans? It's not fair to have something like that in a place, they're prone to embarrassment, so they should either modify the sensors and make them available to everyone (and in all shades of color) or we shouldn't use them at all.

  • British Council.jpg jolly_earth | Duheusheh Girls Basic School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    I do not support this idea because, for example, a dark-skinned person invented an invention that would change humanity, but other companies and designers did not accept it because of the color of his skin, so we should not distinguish between black people and white skin because this is called racial discrimination

  • British Council.jpg placid_emotion | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    I chose to talk about oxemeteres. It's a really serious topic, if this does not get fixed it might put a lot of not-white in danger, that's because, a lot of people with heart or lungs problems depand on oxemeteres to tell their current health state, and if it was wrong and the person decided to work by what it said, then they might have serious side effects, and might even lead to death.

  • British Council.jpg respectful_tennis | State Experimental Basic 2 School | Ghana
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed then No-touch hand- driers and soap dispenser should not be used at all. No- touch hand- driers are the result of technological advncemer and I believe that technology is supposed to make life easy for all ( skin tones) and some ( lighter skin tones only). If No- touch hand- driers do not fulfill this purpose it can cause a misunderstanding between the blacks and the white because they might think that they did it for only the white.

  • British Council.jpg authentic_bird | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If the problem is not fixed (anti-crime algorithms) It is possible that dark-skinned people are more vulnerable to injustice in the courts because of this problem, so why do we not find a solution to the problem of racism as Article (26) It states that all people are equal before the law, and enjoy without any discrimination for any reason, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or non-political opinion, national or social origin, or revolution, or ratios, or something else. So why don't we put ourselves in the place of people with dark skin and why don't we eliminate this discrimination, because people are equal

  • Cheam Fields logo excellent_solution | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    1.I think if this problem does not get fixed then we will see lots more car accidents among darker skinned people because with the automatic cars if they need to stop at a crossing to let a person of colour cross the road they might not slow down as the car can't recognise them meaning that they may run them over so if they don't fix this then don't make automatic cars at all.
    2.Another thing that could happen if this problem doesn't get fixed is that doctors won't be sure if a dark skinned person is ill or not and may say they don't have an illness or disease just because of the oximetres not being able to know if they are badly ill just because they can't always recognise if the person is ill all because their race is coloured meaning that they could get seriously ill but when they find out it is too late because at first the oximetres didn't say that they were ill.

  • British Council.jpg funny_deer | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem between white skin and brown skin is not fixed, the field of agriculture will not progress and will not succeed because people with white skin will not accept any new technology idea in the development of the field of agriculture because of the hatred and inherited hatred for people with black skin. This will affect modern technology innovations in the field of agriculture and the judiciary on these ideas because of racial discrimination

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      funny_deer's comment 24 Mar 2022

      The way you have phrased this makes it sound like this is true for ALL white people and ALL black people. Next time try using words like "sometimes" or "might" to show that this is not the case.

  • British Council.jpg creative_road | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    23 Mar 2022

    If the discrimination problem in water sensors, dryers, and soap in restaurants, shops, or public places is not fixed; Dark-skinned people will be more susceptible to disease because they will not be able to wash their hands. This means that they will transmit viruses and bacteria, and this is dangerous, as before I saw this topic, I was already browsing Facebook and looking at the videos, when I looked at a video, I opened it and watched it, and it was talking about the exact same topic; As a black man is in a restaurant and went to wash his hands, he could not, because that machine is programmed not to receive dark-skinned people, so that man tried to put tissue paper on his hand to see if water would come down or not, and indeed the water was removed! Where that man wanted to share the suffering of dark-skinned people and also showed us racial discrimination in technological inventions.

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      creative_road's comment 24 Mar 2022

      Hi creative_road! Just to clarify, the examples we have given of discrimination in technology are not done on purpose to be racist. Rather, they happen because the technology was not tested well enough on a diverse range of people. For example, in the case you mentioned, the hand driers were not tested properly to make sure they work for black people. It is not true that this problem was made deliberately.

  • Cheam Fields logo polite_poem | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed,then we should not drive self-driving cars or even invent them.Because self-driving cars are made of technology and us people think that technology helps us.In my opinion they suppose to help everyone so like all skin colour but actually it just sticks with lighter skin people like white people,not black people.This creates unfairness as only white people can have self-driving cars and black people can't this also might be an example of bias as only white skin people can drive and black people can't.If self-driving cars can't have black people then we must stop it because the black people will be treated unfairly which is not good.

  • Cheam Fields logo content_badger | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    23 Mar 2022

    I am choosing the self driving car.
    I think if this problem does not get fixed, it could lead to many innocent lives being lost due to a fatal accident that happened because of something faulty with the car. If this carries on, it will be very unsafe to drive since so many people have a darker skin tone to other people which leads to the car not detecting anybody in front of it. If this happens, it will be very unsafe and no one would drive this car while it is insecure.

  • British Council.jpg aware_painting | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the bias problem in (crime-fighting algorithms) is not fixed, it will harm the justice system and reputation because of this kind of bias in its work, as well as deepening racial equality and bias against black people and subjecting them to arrest and detention due to false reports to recognition systems because they send false warnings against innocent people Algorithms like these should be more aware, operate with greater transparency, and make objective and fair decisions so as not to cause anxiety and injustice...

  • British Council.jpg aware_painting | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the oximeter problem is not fixed, it will give worse satisfactory and health outcomes for black people, and this device can cast doubt on the patients' own claims about the extent of their disease, which also leads to mistrust and miscommunication between health care providers and the dark-skinned patient group. This is fatal and difficult...

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      aware_painting's comment 24 Mar 2022

      Well done for pointing out how this could lead to miscommunication - I hadn't considered that angle before.

  • British Council.jpg genius_gazelle | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of facial recognition not get fixed, then unfortunately technology this time isn't playing agood role in the communities, but it is playing a serious dangerous role by encouraging the racism issue again where technology devices are the first accused.
    No doubt that the social system according to this discrimination ,will collapse sooner or later. 
    Because it's not rational that hundreds, if not thousands of innocent black people who are in prisons are victims because of a faulty facial recognition device !!!
    It is not fair, because it definitely will destroy and disperse the black families and their children, as well as their suffering with the society's view of them.
    This accidental discrimination demonstrates the commitment of the technology industry to create tools that help the growth of society, with inclusive systems and applications and technologies that help combat discrimination instead of fomenting racism.

  • British Council.jpg ambitious_bell | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed, then I think that the oxygen measuring device will not be usable and is useless, because the wrong measures may pose a great danger to a person's life (especially since oxygen is the most important thing we breathe) and it may lead to death perhaps if It was cut off or very little, so if the person died (without racism), and the device did not do its work, what was the point of inventing the device in the first place?

  • British Council.jpg helpful_flower | Duheusheh Girls Basic School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    Discrimination :
    It is to distinguish one person from another or from the group.
    I hate discrimination a lot because it becomes unfair and it is really disgusting.
    Design distinction:
    I don't know about design distinction but I will try.
    I think the design distinction is that someone dislikes someone's design because they hate it and likes something else because they love it.
    I'm sure my comment is wrong, but I tried.
    I too faced discrimination
    from a girlfriend.
    As for the teachers, the teacher has decreased three marks for me for no reason and because she hates me, but she has increased for the girls who love them.
    And also, although I am the highest rate with her, but do not give me a face and do not tell me excellent or anything.
    I know that the issue is not about discrimination that happened to me, but I wanted to share what happened to me and is still happening.
    😢

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      helpful_flower's comment 24 Mar 2022

      Hi helpful_flower! Please try talking to your teacher directly about how you feel so that they can explain your marks to you.

    2. British Council.jpg incredible_trumpet | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
      helpful_flower's comment 25 Mar 2022

      This is really helpful because I did not know this type of discrimination was popular and hearing this is really touching but my question is how are you dealing or how did you deal with it.

  • British Council.jpg noble_world | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    Racism against dark- skinned people exists in all parts of the world, especially in America. White Americans were given
    privileges and rights that were restricted to them only, excluding all other racer. European Americans, in particular ( the rich white Anglo -Saxon protestants) ,were granted exclusive privileges in matters of education, immigration and immigration, and from a technological point of view Studies say technological studies say that whites are the poorest understanding of the impact that science, applications, and services have on back races, and research has shown extensive evidence of colour discrimination in criminal justice, business ,economics, housing, health care, and the media . And politics is the United States and Europe, our duty towards them is not to discriminate a gainst them and their sponsors.

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      noble_world's comment 24 Mar 2022

      Thanks noble_world. Can you please share where you found this information?

  • British Council.jpg smart_message | Bomas Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    I will like to talk about the pulse oximeter that measures the percentage and flow of oxygen in the blood, oxygen can be low due to the following reasons: suffocation, allergies, cardiac issues, sicknesses such as pneumonia and cancer. If this device works against a particular group of people with any of the above illnesses or issues it could present their issues a little less serious than it is thus posing this individual with a greater health risk, worsening of their health challenge which could lead to death. If this is so, then the aim for which it was designed has been defeated, doctors should stop the usage of oximeters until an improved oximeter that works for all is made.

  • British Council.jpg unbiased_map | Bomas Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    In recent times technology is advancing, globalization is taking over the world; new inventions like the self-driving cars and so on have been made. If this works against a particular set of individuals then it is no longer reliable and dependable as it will pose a great risk on the black or nonwhites putting the lives of innocent road users at risk. In my opinion the self-driving cars should be banned from street usage until a new advancement is made to work in favor of all.

  • British Council.jpg lucky_power | Bomas Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    I will talk about the self-driving cars which are not dependable as it works against the non-whites, if this problem is not fixed then the cars should not be put on the streets so to avoid putting the lives of innocent pedestrians in danger. I think if this advanced technology which is supposed to make life easier has become a threat to some of the human race on the basis of their skin colour, then it should be worked on again to be able to recognize all skin colours, and where it is not possible it should be banned because if this is not done, a lot of non-whites would be in danger.

  • British Council.jpg reflective_fruit | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of oximeter doesn't get fixed then we resk to lose our humanity. All people are equal and must to be treated the same way. Discrimination means the abscence of light in our hearts so never let light goes away.

  • British Council.jpg jolly_power | Bomas Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    Crime fighting algorithm device should not be used at all because it's not accurate in most cases it can give false verdicts on innocent people, I see this device as a non-reliable technology. If this is not fixed many people will be jailed innocently and be suspects of criminal offences which will lower their self-esteem. This is a disadvantage to the nonwhites.

  • British Council.jpg intelligent_butterfly | Bomas Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    Oximeters are medical devices used to check the level of oxygen in the blood and should help medical doctors make sound judgments, but when medical reports show wrong interpretation, then lives are put at great risk. The pulse oximeter has it's repercussions if read wrongly most especially in the lives of the blacks because they are the victims here, even though the oximeters were not designed having this bias in mind but it has been discovered that it gives wrong readings on the oxygen level and glucose level in dark skinned people. This should be fixed because every oxygen percentage in the blood has a significant impact so if this is read wrongly its repercussions can be unfortunately tragic.

  • British Council.jpg fulfilled_peach | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    this problem is not fixed> I think that "self-driving cars" should not be used in the future! If self-propelled cars are used by people with (light skin color) only! This does not suffice the purpose of “driving” and sometimes we hear about many collisions with black passers-by. Rather, there should not be discrimination in technology (design) as well, just as discrimination with (gender, race or age) is unfair. The question is why is it so important to self-repair cars? Yes very important! , to prevent discrimination between (skin colour, black and white) and to prevent black pedestrians from colliding and because it fulfills the purpose of driving and even distinguishes between human colors, which causes the death of blacks and the loss of an astonishing number of lives. unclean. This should not happen! (In the second part, I will complete the solution to the question, thanks!)

  • British Council.jpg constructive_moth | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of discrimination in oximeters is not fixed, then I feel like it should not be in use anymore as it can pose danger to the lives of black people, if it will risk a patient's life it is not worth it. I also feel like it will create mistrust between healthcare providers and the black population seeking health care and this is not good so if this problem cannot be fixed, it will be best if it was not in use anymore. This is my sincere opinion.

  • British Council.jpg motivated_camel | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of crime fighting algorithms are not fixed ,then it would most likely make room for many biases or streotypes. A good scenario could be cited using the example of the algorithm informing the police that black people were more likely to commit crimes than white people. This algorithm could build and reinforce the idea that black poeple are "usually" criminals which would lead to the maltreatment of black individuals. Crime algorithms are supposed to make predictions based on existing crime reports. However, since crimes aren't equally reported everywhere, the readings such algorithms provide to law enforcement could simply copy the biases in reporting over each area. I have a friend who comes from a particular tribe. Unfortunately for my friend, her tribesmen are sterotyped as thieves just because the actual name of that tribe is "Tiv" which bears no relationship to the English word thief at all. This sterotype is sometimes used against her when things go missing even if she is innocent and it hurt her so badly her school had to be changed. This is an example of how wromg crime algorithms could adversely affect the lives of innocent people and if such algorithms can't be guaranteed to be correct, they should not be used at all.

  • British Council.jpg appreciative_pear | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If this problem has not been fixed, then what is the importance of using technology, for example, in Sudan, the majority of people have black skin, so how if there is a distinction in the design, for example, there are cars that people with black skin are not allowed to ride even though their people are black!

  • British Council.jpg authentic_bird | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of measuring oxygen in blood does not get fixed for dark skin people by oximeter , many people's lives will be at risk and the machine will lose its credibility . I think because it's not a practical design , it needs someone to develop an accurate one that could be used successfully for people of different colour skins .

  • British Council.jpg extraordinary_squirrel | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    According to Wikipedia "Self-driven cars are vehicles that are capable of sensing its environment and moving safely with little or no human input."
    If this problem is not fixed I think self-driven should be stopped because according to the definition it is meant to "sense" people and if it can't then it should be stopped because if something is not beneficiary to everyone but to some people then I feel there should be no need of it, in my own opinion putting an end to it will stop people from feeling bad that their skin colour is not recognized because what is meant to make humanity easier is not rather it is causing people to feel sad, it is not fair that it the light skin is recognize and not the dark skin isn't, I believe every thing should be equal without discrimination. The primary purpose why some technology are created is to make our lives easier without much struggle, so for me I feel that any technology that is causing discrimination should be put to an end.

  • British Council.jpg determined_brain | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the face print problem is not fixed, the risk will be exacerbated by major changes in hair, weight and appearance and lead to the person feeling bad and this is dangerous and may lead to suicide, as well as privacy problems where if the device is stolen and the thief relied on the fingerprint by changing the angle the camera falls on the face He can unlock the phone and threaten or blackmail the stolen person.

  • British Council.jpg champion_signature | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    24 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed then no-touch hand driers should not be used at all. I thought all technological advances were for the the benefit of all and not for some. If the no touch hand driers would not save the lives of both races but rather causing harm to innocent blacks in times of emergencies like that of the pandemic then, it would be unethical and unjust, so it should be prohibited.

  • Cheam Fields logo polite_poem | Cheam Fields Primary Academy A | United Kingdom
    24 Mar 2022

    I think if facial recognition doesn't be fixed that means we shouldn't use it at all because their device won't let you in this means that when you get older your face will change and you will look completely different and you device won't allow to go sign in as it can't recognise you.Also people might go onto your account by if they have a picture of you when you were young they can show it to the device and might sign in you device.

  • British Council.jpg stellar_pear | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    24 Mar 2022

    If the problem of discrimination in design is not considered, then we can say that the world and designers have reached the peak of non-progress, but we are still in the Stone Age
    So I will take into account a problem that happens to everyone, which is in restaurants, for example:
    Bathrooms where soap dispensing machines do not receive the hands of black people, unlike those with white skin. There is an activist on social media who thought that there was a problem with the machine, but when I put the white toilet paper in place of the hand, the machine turned on and downloaded the soap.
    What is this? Will black-skinned people be deprived of their right to use the bathrooms with all their tools in truth?

  • British Council.jpg dynamic_power | Marka Prep. Girls School 2 | Jordan
    24 Mar 2022

    This problem must be fixed so that it does not get worse.
    And so that there is no loss of life without reason.
    And so that we do not go back to fighting discrimination as it was in the past in the time of slavery, but slavery with technological techniques.

  • British Council.jpg involved_trombone | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    If the problem of oximetres does not fix, then many non-white people will face health problems as a result of the wrong resutls or vice versa. Those people may also be healthy but suspected with having health problems because of not having an accurate system in diagnosis and check up . In both situations, people will got harmed and fall in troubles as a result of false results and
    health risks. In this regard, such medical tool need to be developed to succeed in measuring the oxygen in blood for non_white people. This may help in ending accidential descriminaton between white and non_white people.

  • British Council.jpg amiable_imagination | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    “If the oximeter problem is not fixed, this will put the lives of many dark-skinned people at risk. My mother is a doctor and works with cases of (Covid 19) who are exposed to severe shortage of oxygen.” My mother says that the lack of oxygen causes stress for patients and death, so the situation must be addressed quickly And therefore when oxygen is measured incorrectly, it certainly leads to death (and people's lives) which is certainly the most important....
    We must not underestimate someone's life, because they may have left behind children and a family, it is sad to lose someone dear to them.

    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      amiable_imagination's comment 25 Mar 2022

      Well done for discussing Topical Talk topics at home with your family, amiable_imagination!

  • British Council.jpg strong_lion | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    25 Mar 2022

    If this problem does not get fixed then I think that oximeters should not be used at all. I believe that the purpose of technology is to make life easy for everyone irrespective of his or her race, rather than create unease for certain races. If oximeters give less accurate results for people with darker skin their own claims about the extent of their disease may not be believed and could lead to worsening cases, to prevent this I suggest that local methods should be employed and oximeters should not be used.

  • British Council.jpg fantastic_fossil | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    25 Mar 2022

    The self driving cars were purposely invented for the aiding of man, it was invented to ease driving, prevent accidents, and make the in-car experience a delightful one, however since self driving cars does not properly detect the skin tone of the dark it means that the prevention of accident belief has been defeated, because when this cars come in contact to the black people, it may lead to series of fatal accidents proving to be another national hazard.
    The only way to solve this is to prohibit self driving cars until manufacturers can remodel and re-design them.

  • British Council.jpg highspirited_horse | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    25 Mar 2022

    If this does not get fixed, people will end getting arrested or even behind bars for doing nothing. Just because an algorithm tells you so, does not mean its true. After all, nothing man-made, is perfect. We are all humans black or white we are all entitled to our say. An algorithm just doesn't tell what to do especially concerning one's right as a human being and you just do it. At least, a proper investigation should be carried before concluding. Imagine the amount of people that are being prepared to be put behind bars or have already been put behind for something that he \she did not do. So if at all this problem cannot be fixed, then i suggest that it shouldn't be used AT ALL!!!!!

  • British Council.jpg fantastic_cymbals | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    25 Mar 2022

    If the problem of the crime fighting algorithms is not fixed, then it could lead to war and hate between the black people and white people. This is because if there are crimes that are committed by a white person and he or she happens to frame a black person for the crime, then the black person is most likely to be convicted for a crime that he or she did not commit which could lead to a war and be a reason for greater gender bias between the two races.

  • British Council.jpg diligent_library | Rhemaville Christian Academy | Nigeria
    25 Mar 2022

    The problem of oximeters should get fixed quickly because the lives of many black people are at stake and if this problem cant be fixed then I feel that oximeters should not be used they should use other equipments that is not bias based and this can help people to be at the safer side. And the fact that people make technological equipments to be bias it is not fair beacause the life of many people are at risk and the daily activities of people are being affected.

  • British Council.jpg imaginative_mood | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    If the problem of algorithms is not fixed, then many innocent people may be unjustly jailed and spend the rest of their lives in prisons. At the same time, this may cause harm to people as it allows committing crimes from criminals who could not be discovered or arrested by police. This is a very dangerous and racist problem. Investigators need to depend on other tool to find out the truth or they can use a more developed version of algorithms that do not differentiate beween white and non_white people.

  • British Council.jpg sceptical_crow | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    If the problem of the oximetres that shows inaccurate results for black skin is not fixed, this causes anxiety and frightens many of them without harming anything, and will cause some people to have a psychological state that will portray their bodies as having a disease.
    So this problem must be solved because it is very difficult and dangerous, and if it is not solved we should not rely so much on the black-skinned oximetres.

  • British Council.jpg sceptical_crow | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    If the face print problem is not fixed, it will lead to very dangerous things, and that's what I knew when I asked my father, who said: "This method of insurance is mostly used to protect valuable things such as: dangerous information or money......"
    That is why I concluded from his words that this problem may lead to many cases of theft and also the occurrence of dangerous information in the wrong hands.
    Therefore, this problem must be resolved as soon as possible so as not to spread chaos.

  • British Council.jpg considerate_dolphin | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    Every single day, each of us can stand up to racial prejudice and bigoted behaviour. In 1965, the international community adopted the international convention on the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination . In which it committed itself to eliminating all forms of racial discrimination. Ratification of the Convention is now almost complete, yet many people around the world continue to suffer the injustice of racism and the stigmatization that it entails. For example, a few days ago, I watched a racist video that made me sad because the photographer was black and wanted to wash his hands through the sensor faucets, but the water did not come down, and when he put it on a white paper, the water came down. What do you think how does he feel? Why should he be exposed to this racism and embarrassment? Is it because he has a black skin ? There are many examples like these as what happened in self-driving cars and oximeters. How long will racism remain so prevalent?

    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      considerate_dolphin's comment 28 Mar 2022

      Thank you for bringing this example to our attention, considerate_dolphin.

  • British Council.jpg wondrous_lute | Beit Ula Basic Girls School No.1 B | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    25 Mar 2022

    If the problem of the oxygen meter for dark-skinned people is not fixed, it will cause the death of many people, especially with the shadow of the Covid-19 pandemic, and people with it will become deprived of oxygen, and when measuring oxygen in people with dark skin. It will give false results that will lead to the death of the patient if not treated and will cause problems between patients and medical staff.

  • British Council.jpg jolly_science | Beit Ula Basic Girls School No.1 B | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    26 Mar 2022

    If the problem of laundries and dryers that do not work when black people put their hands in them and work when white people are laid, racism will grow and become not only limited to appliances but in all walks of life

  • British Council.jpg enchanted_cookie | Beit Ula Basic Girls School No.1 B | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    26 Mar 2022

    There are many racist problems that black-skinned people suffer from, whether they are mechanical or human racism.. For example, each of us likes to take memorial photos with his family or friends..... but imaging devices, whether cameras or mobile phones sometimes when taking a picture Black people's faces don't appear especially at night while they can show white people's faces....also in the scope of taking photos there are many people who put filters for beauty or fun, but there are some apps that black people can't use The filters are in it.....and thus can seriously harm their psyche....that's why I hope this problem is solved because racism is very painful

  • British Council.jpg spectacular_flight | Pantang Presby Basic School | Ghana
    26 Mar 2022

    If the problem of the oximeter is not solved many dark skin people may end up losing their life because of taking some bad medication. If this goes on the dark- skinned people will loose their children, parents, friends and their siblings.

  • British Council.jpg reflective_beaver | Jabalia Prep Girls A School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    27 Mar 2022

    If this problem is not fixed, then the peoples will enter into a state of civil war (black and white) and there will be great human losses.

  • British Council.jpg genuine_memory | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    27 Mar 2022

    If this problem is not fixed, the lives of dark-skinned people will be at risk, but when the autonomous car is equipped with devices that are unable to identify dark-skinned people, but human beings like us will remain, and because of this technology, there will be more accidents against dark-skinned people because of this innovation that does not simulate people with dark skin. Dark skin, so if some of the devices inside the car are increased and programmed with a sensor that specifically senses dark-skinned people, this will help reduce accidents due to devices that cannot see and identify dark-skinned people at night times.

  • British Council.jpg witty_land | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    27 Mar 2022

    I wonder why these tecniques failed in achieving accurate results. These unfair tools or mechanisms that ae mentioned above need to redesigned or improved to get developed or corrected. If I take facial recogintion as example, this method makes hard to distinguish people perfectly and it becomes misleading if it keeps this way. I suggest depening on eye print as a more definite and accurate way. It can be also developed to include other facial parts like the shape of nose and mouth or the lines or wrenkles at face. This can be done or adopted by experts in technology or detection systems.

  • British Council.jpg brilliant_tree | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    27 Mar 2022

    If this problem, which is the self-driving car, is not fixed, it will never help in human life and will not make life easier for him. Technology has developed and is still developing to serve man and everyone on the earth. Equality will not help all people either.
    Let us suppose that a black mother was late for work and she had some things to prepare them for her work, but she was late and found the right time to do it in the car. Isn't she entitled at this important moment to use this feature to do whatever she wants?
    I think that when we invent something, we have to examine everything in it and it is suitable for all people for all kinds of situations.

  • British Council.jpg brilliant_tree | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    27 Mar 2022

    If the problem of the oxygen system is not fixed, then the device can show pathological results that are not present in the person, and I believe that this could lead to the doctor may give medicines for this disease that appeared to the person and it is not his disease in the first place, and he takes these medicines and may cause him problems in Other parts of his body or could lead to the death of a person due to a major technological error.

    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      brilliant_tree's comment 28 Mar 2022

      A logical way of looking at the consequences, brilliant_tree.

  • British Council.jpg lovely_cloudberry | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    28 Mar 2022

    If this problem of discrimination is not resolved, it will be difficult for a person to live his life in peace. Discrimination can lead to bullying. This is so bad. Bullying leads to depression and not leaving his home and making his life difficult, because of the discrimination that the black-skinned person is subjected to; But appearance does not matter, because beauty is in the soul. Our Lord created us to worship Him. Why should we distinguish one from the other? We are all brothers in Islam.

  • British Council.jpg faithful_personality | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    28 Mar 2022

    If the problem of fingerprint identification is not fixed, it will be difficult for people (with dark skin) to enter their homes or devices, which leads to hatred among members of society as a result of racial discrimination that occurs in society. It is possible for people (with dark skin) to choose to boycott these products that happen There is racial discrimination in terms of color and it will negatively affect the owners of these products, as they will lose and reduce the general budget of companies.

  • British Council.jpg sceptical_crow | Beit Lahya Prep Girls | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    28 Mar 2022

    If the face print problem is not fixed, it will lead to very dangerous things, and that's what I knew when I asked my father, who said: "This method of insurance is mostly used to protect valuable things such as: dangerous information or money......"
    That is why I concluded from his words that this problem may lead to many cases of theft and also the occurrence of dangerous information in the wrong hands.
    Therefore, this problem must be resolved as soon as possible so as not to spread chaos.

  • British Council.jpg dynamic_bilberry | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    29 Mar 2022

    I chose the problem of pulse oximetry, as if this problem is not fixed, this will lead to obstacles that may impede the path of technological progress, as solutions must be found to this problem. They make a device that does not differentiate whether the skin is dark or white, or they make a special device for people with dark skin, since then this proposal will not allow doctors to treat patients based on false readings without their knowledge, and it will not lead to a high death rate, and technological development will continue its progress without hindrances.

  • British Council.jpg imaginative_world | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    29 Mar 2022

    I think that motorized cars are more harmful for dark-skinned people, and this development is illegal and inappropriate. It is possible that a dark-skinned person may be injured, and also the sensors that are made, such as the water tap sensor, have a great distinction, so they were made for people with white skin, these sensors do not work With dark-skinned people, here we find discrimination and inappropriate invention. When inventing anything, both sides should be taken into account, people with white and black skin, so that there is no discrimination between them.

  • British Council.jpg loved_fig | Ramallah Basic Girl School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    30 Mar 2022

    If this problem is not fixed, then many people will be wronged and will affect their psyche because every person in society has a different skin color from others, and if this problem is not fixed, we will not be able to progress and develop, and life will become very difficult, we must find Solutions to this problem, such as the state issuing laws against any person who tries to discriminate between another person, stripping his rights or bullying him, and issuing penalties such as paying a fine or entering prison...etc. A person is not born racist. Racism, hatred and discrimination are implanted by adults in their children, so they grow and grow with them, and many dark-skinned people have left important historical traces throughout history, such as Nelson Mandela.

  • Bruntcliffe-logo-250x250.jpg imaginative_panther | Bruntcliffe Academy | United Kingdom
    30 Mar 2022

    For the problem of automatic cars not picking up people with dark skin is a very serious one. We will find as time humanity will depend on technology even more, it is estimated that by 2025 lots of people will use these self driving cars. By not detecting those with darker skin is not just a racial injustice but a threat of life and death, the cars not picking up the people could lead to increased deaths of racial minorities.

  • British Council.jpg entrepreneurial_hurricane | Pantang Presby Basic School | Ghana
    06 Apr 2022

    I chose Oximetry is a test used to measure the oxygen level of the blood. It is an easy, painless measure of how well oxygen is being sent to parts of our bodies furthest from your heart such as the arms and legs. This information helps the healthcare provider decide if a person needs extra Oxygen. Plus Oximetry may be used to see if there is enough oxygen in the blood. It may be used for
    1) During or after surgery or procedures that use sedation
    2)To see how well the lung medicine are working
    Plus Oximetry is also used to check the health of a person with many conditions like
    1) Anemia
    2) Heart failure
    3) Heart attack
    4) Asthma and many more

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