Is it always the right decision to start a war?

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What is war?

War is an intense armed conflict between states, governments, societies, countries or paramilitary groups such as mercenaries, insurgents, and militias. It is generally characterized by extreme violence, aggression, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces. An example of war is the events that happened in World War 1 and 2. Another example of this is the conflict in Afghanistan which has affected many people.

The Kabul Conflict

As you may or may not have already noticed, war is still taking place in many countries from around the world. For example, countries like North Korea, Somalia, Lebanon, Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Central African Republic have been the most war-torn countries. Our main focus on this topic is all about Afghanistan and the Taliban takeover in Kabul: the capital. Before I explaain about how the attacks were first formed in the late 2001's, I recommend you to check out these amazing websites filled with information about the conflict happening this year. The links are in the description down below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

https://www.bing.com/search?q=war-torn+countries&qs=OS&pq=war+torn+cou&sc=6-12&cvid=DBB6EA6380E34DFD8901612CFF3CCFE6&FORM=QBRE&sp=1

How did the War in Afghanistan start?

Days after the 9/11 (September 11) attacks in 2001, former president George Walker Bush demanded that the Taliban's mastermind of all attacks, would freely operate the country. Suddenly, the Taliban's refusal to do what they asked to led to a total invasion of the country; their Al-Qaeda allies were mostly defeated and expelled from major population centres and later led the Northern Alliance. This was now known as the conflict in Kabul that we see today. Eventually the war sadly claimed the lives of over 176,000 Afghan citizens and made others worrried about their future, as they all felt they may be a part of the others who were deceased. Some were petrified about the events happening so they tried to flee their country. Many people were reunited with their famillies in countries such as the UK, whereas others were unable to escape and seek refuge.

So is it always okay to start a war? (My Opinion.)

Based on what I have first learnt about the attacks in Afghanistan, I think that it is definitely NOT okay to start a war. This can lead to a tragic turn of events for example, many people are dying, some are homeless and hungry and even women aren't being treated fairly in their homes now that the Taliban have taken control of not just Kabul, but every single state in this country. I am also hoping that the war will end so that people can live peacefully again!

Feel free to share your opinions and comments in the comment section. Remember, everyone has a chance to have their voices heard on the website!

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Comments (59)

  • tom Tom @ Topical Talk
    02 Nov 2021

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this question and inviting others to have their say. Take a look at this Project's first Learning Zone to find out more about what has happened more recently involving the Taliban.

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg lucky_pineapple | Boutcher C of E Primary School A | United Kingdom
    02 Nov 2021

    Thanks Tom! I'll make sure that I will take a look at the project's first Learning Zone on the website to find out more information!

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  • British Council.jpg active_fact | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    02 Nov 2021

    After taking a look at the learning area of ​​Afghanistan, the war and the Taliban movement, I wished that this war had not been established in the first place. Its consequences and negatives on both sides of the conflict are greater and greater than achieving any goal that the disputants reach, but regret is useless after that tragic war occurred, from which he will continue to suffer a lot from generations in that country. In the longest war in its history, the United States of America incurred heavy material costs and human losses, and was finally forced to begin withdrawing its forces from Afghanistan. . But after 20 years, what has this war left for Afghanistan?

    Yet, twenty years later, Afghanistan remains a turbulent and conflicted country. The US strategic goal in launching the war in Afghanistan is that Afghanistan will not be a haven for terrorism, but this goal has not been achieved. Despite the overthrow of the Taliban regime, the movement has been reorganized since 2003. Now, the movement has developed into a political and military organization with more than 80,000 members, a stubborn fighting force, and hostile to the USA and the current Afghan government. In addition to the Taliban, many extremist organizations are active in Afghanistan, such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS-affiliated Khorasan Province. According to the annual Global Peace Index released in June 2019, Afghanistan has replaced Syria as the most insecure country in the world. For twenty years, the conflict has caused serious humanitarian disasters in Afghanistan. Since 2019, more than 40,000 civilians have been killed and more than 60,000 civilians injured in Afghanistan, and nearly 11 million people have become refugees.

    Afghanistan remains a virtually divided country. The USA and the Afghan government it supports cannot effectively govern the entire region, and their control is mainly limited to the central, western and northern regions, as well as large and medium-sized cities and major transportation lines across the country. The Afghan government is also inseparable from the military protection of the USA and its Western allies. In addition, it faces dilemmas such as poor governance and corruption. On the other hand, the Taliban have controlled many areas in southeast and southern Afghanistan, and they can implement effective administration in areas where their authority is firmly established in their hands. For example, Islamic law is applied to protect the local population and help them resolve civil or commercial disputes. In fact, this constitutes a political separation from the Afghan government.

    Afghanistan is also one of the least economically developed countries in the world, its industrial and agricultural basis is fragile and it is not self-sufficient in food, and its economy is highly dependent on foreign aid.

    The failure of Afghanistan's war on terror and reconstruction is the result of a combination of different factors. But the American factor cannot be ignored, considering Washington a promoter and leader of the war.
    After the end of the Cold War, the United States of America became the only superpower in the world, and its expansion of hegemony and militarism led to its long front in the "fight against terrorism" and its preoccupation with something. The Afghanistan war was the first war that Washington fought after entering the twenty-first century. In the past 20 years, the US military in Afghanistan has repeatedly killed and bombed innocent civilians, ignored local religious culture and customs, and consistently humiliated and tortured prisoners, arousing anti-Washington sentiment in the Afghan people and encouraging more people to join the war against the USA. For example, from January to April 2012, incidents of US soldiers insulting the corpses of anti-US fighters in Afghanistan were successively revealed. In February 2012, soldiers at US military bases in Afghanistan burned a large number of religious books, including the Qur'an. In March 2012, an American soldier shot and killed 16 innocent Afghan civilians. This series of incidents sparked widespread anti-US protests across Afghanistan and neighboring countries. The Taliban also took the opportunity to intensify its retaliatory attacks on the US military in Afghanistan. In the past twenty years, the US media has repeatedly revealed various incidents of prisoner abuse by US military and intelligence agents. In 2017, the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court decided to conduct a comprehensive investigation into possible war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the United States of America in Afghanistan.

    , the so-called Western-style democracy does not necessarily fit the national conditions of Afghanistan. It took hundreds of years to establish modern Western democracies in European and American countries. During this period, the ideological enlightenment of the Renaissance and the religious revolution, the direct promotion of the Industrial Revolution, and the bourgeois revolution were repeatedly tested. As for Afghanistan, there is no corresponding economic, class, ideological and cultural basis for that. First, Afghanistan is one of the least developed countries in the world, with a very low level of productivity. Second, since the last century, a somewhat capitalist economy has developed in Afghanistan, and a constitutional or republican monarchy was established in the 1960s and 1970s. But in general, the gap between rich and poor in Afghanistan is huge, and currently about 40% of the population still lives below the poverty line. Third, there are many tribes and ethnic groups in Afghanistan, the tribal and ethnic identity is higher than the national identity, and the socio-political division is dangerous. Afghanistan is an Islamic country, the vast majority of its people believe in Islam, and it is difficult for many people, especially the middle and lower classes, to accept Western democratic values. In such a country, Western-style democracy may exacerbate political and social division, leading to instability in the country and failure of governance.

    This indicates that the war in Afghanistan, which lasted for nearly twenty years, left behind a turbulent and divided Afghanistan.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      active_fact's comment 03 Nov 2021

      This contains lots of interesting information, however it is a little one-sided. Which perspectives might argue that America made some positive changes in Afghanistan?

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      1. British Council.jpg bright_conversation | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
        Katie @ Topical Talk's comment 03 Nov 2021

        In response to terrorism, the United States invaded Afghanistan 20 years ago, and many fear that al-Qaeda and other militant groups will find safe haven again.
        The United States led the entire reconstruction of Afghanistan, providing billions of dollars to Afghanistan's national security forces and building national roads, governments, and educational facilities. Despite the withdrawal of US troops, the Biden government has applied for more than $ 3 billion in the reconstruction of Afghanistan next year. Learning was often limited because good ratings were ignored and bad ratings could not clarify or justify the necessary changes. A review of government assessment efforts in 2018 found that government agencies used assessments "sporadic".

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg brilliant_lobster | Boutcher C of E Primary School A | United Kingdom
    03 Nov 2021

    wow an amazing post i enjoyed reading it

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    1. Tiff-Avatar.jpg Tiff @ Topical Talk
      brilliant_lobster's comment 03 Nov 2021

      Has this post helped you build your knowledge or develop your own opinion on the topic? If so, how?

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  • British Council.jpg appreciative_pear | Shouka Prep Girls School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    03 Nov 2021

    I don't think it is the right decision to start a war because if it started it would involve great damage
    The war in Afghanistan or the American war in Afghanistan, is a conflict that took place in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2021, which began with the invasion of the United States and its allies in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. The invasion toppled the Taliban-ruled Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to deprive al-Qaeda of a safe haven for operations in the country. For most of the war, the fighting was between Taliban insurgents and between NATO and the Afghan armed forces. The Taliban regained power after the defeat of the Afghan armed forces following the withdrawal of most of the NATO forces and was considered the longest war in US history, surpassing the Vietnam War by about five months, and the effects of this war on Afghanistan according to the Costs of War Project at Brown University, the war killed an Afghan civilian. The death toll is likely to be higher because of unaccounted deaths due to "disease, loss of access to food, water, infrastructure, or other indirect consequences of war," concludes a report titled Body Count by Physicians for Social Responsibility, Physicians for Global Survival and the Association of Physicians International To prevent nuclear war, as many as a thousand civilians have died as a result of the fighting in Afghanistan at the hands of all parties to the conflict

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    1. Olivia-Avatar.jpg Olivia @ Topical Talk
      appreciative_pear's comment 03 Nov 2021

      This looks like some good research, but rather than just sharing facts, can you give your opinion? What do you think about this?

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg loyal_beetle | Boutcher C of E Primary School A | United Kingdom
    03 Nov 2021

    I loved this post as it showed so many facts that I never knew and they put a lot of thought and research into this post and I also wished that this war in Afghanistan never happened. This post really teaches me whether we really need fighting in this world or not. I never knew that all those other countries and states are going through these wars. This links back to the word normal for me and how for the children of Afghanistan this all seems normal for their parents to worry about them and the danger that they are in. However for us we can get on with our daily lived in peace (most of the time). It is interesting how the difference between the rich and poor Afghan people is huge and how lots of them are living in poverty and feel like they are really isolated and are not important. Also which counties are helping the Afghan people like America and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union are giving them weapons to fight back against the Taliban but the problem is is that either the Afghan people don't want to fight back and flee their homes or they have children or they are to scared to fight back. America was keeping every thing in control and making shore there wasn't to much violence until they left in April because they thought the Afghan government could now handle it but they can't. Should America go back and help? I really like Lucky_Pineapples definition of what war means because they gave examples of what war means like world war 1 and 2 and about the war in Afghanistan.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      loyal_beetle's comment 04 Nov 2021

      Thank you for sharing what you've thought about this - and you've asked a really interesting question : should America go back and help?

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        Tom @ Topical Talk's comment 04 Nov 2021

        I think America should go back and help because the main purpose for invading Afghanistan was to hunt down Osama bin Laden and dislodge the Taliban for providing safe haven to all Qa'ida leaders. But they destroyed constructions and the economy. As a world power it will be nice if they support them in the process of rebuilding the country so as not to work hardship on the average citizen of the country.

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        1. Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo flowing_reindeer | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
          believable_insect's comment 24 Nov 2021

          what is the point of going back there is nobody barley there they cant do anything about the Taliban they should of never left in the first place this year they just let the taliban take over evan more they have took all of womens rights now

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  • British Council.jpg affable_opinion | Pabna Cadet College | Bangladesh
    04 Nov 2021

    I truly like lucky_pineapple's meaning of what war means, on the grounds that they gave instances of what war implies like The World War 1 and 2 and about the conflict in Afghanistan.
    That shows that the conflict in Afghanistan, which went on for almost twenty years, left behind a violent and partitioned Afghanistan.

    Resulting to researching the learning space of ​​Afghanistan, the contention and the Taliban improvement, I needed that this contention had not been set up regardless.

    I cherished this post as it showed such countless realities that I never knew and they put a great deal of thought and examination into this post and I additionally wanted that this conflict in Afghanistan won't ever occur. This post truly shows me if we truly need battling in this world.

    I never realized that that load of different nations and states are going through these conflicts. This connections back to the word typical for myself and how for the offspring of Afghanistan this all appears to be typical for their folks to stress over them and the risk that they are in.

    Its results and negatives on the different sides of the conflict are more vital and more conspicuous than achieving any genuine that the disputants reach, but regret is futile after that horrendous struggle occurred, from which he will continue to encounter an incredible arrangement ages in that country.

    It is fascinating how the distinction between the rich and helpless Afghan individuals is tremendous and how bunches of them are living in destitution and feel like they are truly disengaged and are not significant.

    In the longest clash in its arrangement of encounters, the United States of America caused considerable material costs and human hardships, and was finally constrained to begin taking out its forces from Afghanistan.

    Concerning Afghanistan, there is no relating monetary, class, philosophical and social reason for that. In the first place, Afghanistan is one of the most un-created nations on the planet, with an extremely low degree of usefulness. Second, since the last century, a fairly entrepreneur economy has created in Afghanistan, and a protected or conservative government was set up during the 1960s and 1970s. Be that as it may, as a general rule, the hole among rich and poor in Afghanistan is tremendous, and at present around 40% of the populace actually lives beneath the neediness line. Third, there are numerous clans and ethnic gatherings in Afghanistan, the ancestral and ethnic character is higher than the public personality, and the socio-political division is hazardous. Afghanistan is an Islamic country, by far most of its kin trust in Islam, and it is hard for some individuals, particularly the center and lower classes, to acknowledge Western majority rule esteems. In such a country, Western-style vote based system might worsen political and social division, prompting precariousness in the nation and disappointment of administration.

    A debt of gratitude is in order for your thoughtful consideration.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      affable_opinion's comment 04 Nov 2021

      Well done for responding directly to lucky_pineapple's post - this shows excellent listening!

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg loyal_beetle | Boutcher C of E Primary School A | United Kingdom
    04 Nov 2021

    Thank you I also think should America have left in the first place?
    I don't think that it is there fault as they did not know that there would still be a riot going on. However I also feel that they should go back because now they know what will happen if they leave. I also think that the Soviet Union are doing very well to support the innocent people of Afghanistan.

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  • British Council.jpg entrepreneurial_guitar | Mirzapur Cadet College | Bangladesh
    05 Nov 2021

    • War kills and harms soldiers: War kills, injures and disables the very people who must carry it out. It causes high levels of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and can lead to moral injury as well – namely, the deep shame, guilt, anger or anxiety experienced by soldiers as a result of killing or harming others. Some soldiers may commit suicide. Since 2010, 130 Canadian soldiers have taken their own lives.

    • War kills and harms civilians: In the 20th century, some 200 million people were killed in war, and many millions have already been killed in this century. War not only kills, it also mains people, separates family members, causes disease, hunger and other forms of deprivation. Toxic substances released by some weapons result in severe birth defects, long after wars are officially over. Another frequent weapon of war is rape and other forms of sexual violence against women and girls. The human cost of war is staggering and the impacts extend over generations.

    • War creates refugees: War causes people to flee their homes for safety, sometimes crossing an international border. The UN currently reports that around the world 65 million people are forcibly displaced. The personal upheaval for these individuals is profound, the social and political consequences breath-taking.

    • War harms the natural environment: War contaminates earth, air and water. It destroys natural habitats, killing their flora and fauna. The use of Agent Orange by the U.S. to defoliate the Vietnamese countryside continues to wreak havoc on Vietnam decades later, while use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq will mean radioactive contamination for thousands of years to come. Even in peacetime, standing armies harm the environment because of their enormous carbon footprint.

    • War’s financial cost is enormous: Consider these statistics: Canada’s 12-year military engagement in Afghanistan cost $8.4 billion, while U.S. conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq (and related violence in Pakistan and Syria) from 2001 to 2016 cost about $4.8 trillion. The Institute for Economics & Peace determined that in 2016, the impact of violence (including war) to the global economy was $14.3 trillion per day – the equivalent of more than $5 per day for every person alive. What might be possible if those funds were invested in peacebuilding rather than war-making?

    • War sets back development: The destruction of homes, schools and hospitals, as well as transportation, electrical, water treatment and sanitation systems in wartime can set back economic, social and community development for decades. Wars prevent farmers from farming, children and youth from going to school and ordinary people from going to work. A typical civil war in a medium-sized country costs more than 30 years of GDP growth. No wonder the United Nations in 2015 identified the promotion of peaceful and inclusive societies as one of its key Sustainable Development Goals.
    • War empowers the weapons dealers: War is good business for those who manufacture and trade in weapons and weapons system. In 2015 just 100 companies sold $370 billion worth of arms, and just one company —U.S.-based based Lockheed Martin—had $36 billion in sales. Weapons dealers often have undue influence on politics and foreign policy. In 1961 outgoing U.S. President Eisenhower warned against the power of the “military-industrial complex” to perpetuate war; in many ways, his predictions have come to pass.

    • War distorts truth: In 1918, U.S. Senator Hiram Johnson’s 1919 stated, “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” How very true! War promotes prejudices and stereotypes about people considered “enemy” and often portrays the enemy as less than human, thereby legitimizing the use of violence against them. War reduces moral categories to the simple binary of “we are good, they are evil.” Nuanced public discussion becomes increasingly difficult and sometimes impossible.

    • War does not address root causes: While war may end in some measure of “peace” if accompanied by comprehensive peace negotiations, it rarely addresses the grievances that give rise to it, whether hunger, class division, religious or ethnic conflict, access to land and resources, political exclusion, etc. Because of this, many wars lead to new wars. The war against ISIS, for example, is rooted in the Iraq War, which is rooted in the Gulf War.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      entrepreneurial_guitar's comment 08 Nov 2021

      There's a lot here, entrepreneurial_guitar, and I don't know how much of it is your own words. can you tell us where you found your information?

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  • British Council.jpg playful_dragonfruit | Beit Hanoun Prep Girls A School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    05 Nov 2021

    Wow, I liked this post a lot. I did not have enough such information. According to my point of view, war can be started because the art of war is peace for any country. The motives for war may be different between those who order war and those who die in it. In order to wage war, there must be support from its leadership, its military forces, and its people

    In any case, the most important motive for the war, in many respects, is imperialism.
    There is a book I have read before that indicates why nations go to war, that both sides will claim that morals are the justification for their fight. It also states that the rationale for starting a war depends on an overly optimistic assessment of the outcome of the fighting (injuries and costs), and on misperceptions of the enemy's intentions.
    And if there are reasons, they have been divided into three global causes for wars: they are first) economic reasons, secondly (personal reasons) and thirdly) ideological reasons, which will have the effects of war first on the soldiers. Tania on civilians. Talta. on the economy
    When war is over, the defeated nations are sometimes required to pay war reparations to the victorious nations. In some cases, the land is ceded to the victorious nations.

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  • British Council.jpg entrepreneurial_guitar | Mirzapur Cadet College | Bangladesh
    07 Nov 2021

    I really like lucky_pineapple's importance of what war implies, because they gave examples of what war infers like The World War 1 and 2 and about the contention in Afghanistan.

    That shows that the contention in Afghanistan, which continued for right around twenty years, left behind a fierce and divided Afghanistan.

    Coming about to investigating the learning space of ​​Afghanistan, the dispute and the Taliban improvement, I wanted that this conflict had not been set up notwithstanding.

    I treasured this post as it showed such incalculable real factors that I never knew and they put a lot of thought and assessment into this post and I also needed that this contention in Afghanistan will not at any point happen. This post really shows me on the off chance that we genuinely need doing combating in this world.

    I never understood that that heap of various countries and states are going through these struggles. This associations back to the word normal for me and how for the posterity of Afghanistan this all has all the earmarks of being ordinary for their people to worry about them and the danger that they are in.

    Its outcomes and negatives on the various sides of the contention are more crucial and more prominent than accomplishing any certified that the disputants reach, however lament is vain after that repulsive battle happened, from which he will keep on experiencing an extraordinary game plan ages in that country.

    It is captivating how the differentiation between the rich and defenseless Afghan people is enormous and how lots of them are living in desperation and feel like they are really withdrawn and are not huge.

    In the longest conflict in its course of action of experiences, the United States of America caused impressive material expenses and human difficulties, and was at last compelled to start taking out its powers from Afghanistan.

    Concerning Afghanistan, there is no relating financial, class, philosophical and social justification behind that. In any case, Afghanistan is one of the most un-made countries on earth, with an amazingly low level of convenience. Second, since the last century, a reasonably business person economy has made in Afghanistan, and a secured or moderate government was set up during the 1960s and 1970s. In any case, when in doubt, the opening among rich and poor in Afghanistan is gigantic, and at present around 40% of the general population really lives underneath the destitution line. Third, there are various groups and ethnic get-togethers in Afghanistan, the tribal and ethnic person is higher than the public character, and the socio-political division is unsafe. Afghanistan is an Islamic country, by a long shot a large portion of its family trust in Islam, and it is hard for certain people, especially the middle and lower classes, to recognize Western democratic regards. In such a country, Western-style vote based framework may demolish political and social division, inciting shakiness in the country and disillusionment of organization.

    An obligation of appreciation is all together for your smart thought!

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      entrepreneurial_guitar's comment 08 Nov 2021

      Thank you for sharing so many of your thoughts about what lucky_pineapple has said. Do you have a question of your own that we could think about?

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  • Cheam Common logo spectacular_peak | Cheam Common Junior Academy | United Kingdom
    11 Nov 2021

    In my opinion it is not always so great to start war. But at some points it might be a good idea. Not saying that all of the time its great. For example if a country is invading another country that is not a good war. But if it is war against for example Black Lives Matter to stop it that would be a good war. Most of the time it is a bad reason for war but saying again, it could be good.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      spectacular_peak's comment 12 Nov 2021

      Can you clarify what you mean about Black Lives Matter, spectacular_peak? Do you mean a war against a country whose government is racist?

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  • Boutcher-logo-250x250.jpg dedicated_starfruit | Boutcher C of E Primary School A | United Kingdom
    16 Nov 2021

    Since 1979, Afghanistan has been by invaded by two major superpowers, the Soviet Union and the United States of America. The Soviet Union left ages ago but America didn't leave until the 31st August 2021. Now that's only 3 months ago. However, there was a rivalry between Soviet Union and America and they wanted to conquer as many countries as possible. They arrived at Afghanistan, which they saw as weak. A war raged and Afghanistan split into groups. America gave Afghan tribes guns and weapons to fight the Soviets. America didn't want the Soviets to win as they would get a country. Once the Soviets were kicked out, America made their move . They promised to leave the Afghan people alone and if any intruders came, to kick them out. One of these tribes were called the Mujab-Hadin and they thought they were mighty enough to takeover Afghanistan. They grew into their thousands and became extreme muslims. They made strict laws e.g. they banned people from music, going to the cinema and watching television! That's mind - blowing! They thought they were following the islamic holy book (the Qu'uran) however, they were making up strict rules. They then changed their name to the infamous, "Taliban"... Anyone who disobeyed those awful laws would've been severely beaten and killed. The government was overthrown and the Taliban seized control of the country. People suffered in these times and girls weren't allowed to have a proper education because the Taliban thought that girls weren't intelligent enough and that boys were superior to them. America thought this was wrong and 1996, came to stop the Taliban. The war raged and America had gained the upper hand midway through the war as they had more supplies and weapons than the Taliban. By 2001, the war had ended and everything was put back to normal in Afghanistan. Everyone could return back to their normal life. Women were allowed to go back to school and the government were back in charge. For America, disaster struck... On 11th September 2001, It was a normal morning, and thousands of people were in the Twin Towers when four planes purposely crashed into the famous landmark, setting it on fire! The place was destroyed and thousands of people perished. It turned out members of the Afghan tribe Al-Qaeda blew up the towers and their leader was killed . A war raged and the Taliban and Al-Qaeda surrendered. At last, Afghanistan was free from war and freedom was granted to the Afghan people. However, when America left in August 2021, the Taliban returned and took control of Afghanistan once again. It was horrifying for the Afghan people and the big question is: Should've America left Afghanistan?

    A general citizen of Afghanistan: I personally think America shouldn't have left because we were safe from the Taliban when the Americans were around but now they left, we're weak and vunerable. However, many of us have perished not by the ruthless killings of the Taliban, but by American missiles strikes. Some of us don't trust America but at the end of the day, which is the country protecting us from the Taliban.

    The Taliban: We are absolutely glad America has left. They've been bullying us and abusing our power. Our justice has been proclaimed and Afghanistan is once again, a great, independent country!

    My view of the predicament: I don't think America should've left as that has meant the Afghan people are going to be threatened and they won't be able to have a good life. Women have to be dressed from head to toe and can't go to school which wasn't happening when America were around.

    What's your opinion Topical Talk? I hope you can comment on my comment. Thanks!

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      dedicated_starfruit's comment 16 Nov 2021

      Thank you for your summary, dedicated_starfruit. Just to clarify - two planes flew into the Twin Towers in the 9/11 attacks and two others crashed in other places. The leader of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, was killed years later by American soldiers. Well done for considering this issue from more than one perspective and looking at the historical context of current events.

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  • Cheam Common logo bright_science | Cheam Common Junior Academy | United Kingdom
    16 Nov 2021

    In my opinion, it really depends on what the war is about. If the war was peaceful and everyone respected each other, then I would think that it is okay to start a war. However, if things start to get violent and people attack others in a harsh way I believe that the war should be stopped immediately, people who were involved should really think: Why did we start the war? Did we have to act in such a harsh way? Can we end this war in a calm way? All in all, I have confidence that it depends on how the people act towards the argument.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      bright_science's comment 17 Nov 2021

      Can some wars be peaceful, bright_science?

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  • British Council.jpg independent_technology | Jabalia Prep Girls A School | Occupied Palestinian Territory
    17 Nov 2021

    It's great how you expressed the war
    There was a conflict in Afghanistan that began in 2001
    To this day, the United States and its allies, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks and the invasion that toppled the Taliban-ruled Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, have begun to deprive al-Qaeda of a safe haven for operations in the country.
    But what is meant by a country that occupies another country and why is it because this country is weak? Afghanistan witnessed a terrible war struggle throughout its life. Before the Taliban invasion, it was invaded by the Soviet Union for many years.
    What is meant by this war?
    This is the longest American war, and it witnessed a huge amount of losses, meaning that it lost 2442 soldiers and wounded 20,000 of them, and it lost 2448 pounds. The events of September 11th and the fight against terrorism were the most prominent declared goals of this war, which cost trillions of dollars and left only thousands of dead. of the American military
    As well as Afghanistan got 241 thousand dead! !! This is a huge and huge number of the population, a number that cannot be ignored
    Why are countries occupied in the first place. Will we remain like this forever surrounded by a world full of wars and terrible scenes?

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      independent_technology's comment 18 Nov 2021

      Could you share where you found these numbers please? The war cost a lot more than £2448.

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        Katie @ Topical Talk's comment 18 Nov 2021

        I heard it from the news bulletin, but it seems that as you say the number is more than that because I already heard this news before this week...

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  • Cheam Common logo wonderful_laboratory | Cheam Common Junior Academy | United Kingdom
    17 Nov 2021

    In my opinion it is not okay to start a war unless there was a good explanation to it. For example, if it is to stop invaders from entering territory because they will make the country have a hard time like the Taliban, it is okay to begin a war to protect that country or area or to help protect it. However, it is not okay to begin a war because you want to take over that country or area by force and harm the people within that territory. The Taliban have been known for there strict laws, extremist views and violence and fought a war with the US to gain power and impose new and unwanted ideas into Afghanistahn. These rules were biased and although they called it, part of the Muslim religion, they were entirely different. Some of these 'religious rules' included unfairness towards women and girls and severe punishments were given to those who had not obeyed the smallest of things. As the Taliban began to take control over cities, many people fled the country in terror and the extreme measures they took in attempt to escape the country took the lives of many people.

    This war was okay and not okay in different perspectives. The US, in trying to protect the Afghanistan people, fought a war with the Taliban. However, they ended up sending their troops back and leaving on the 31st of August when they were threatened. Also many people in the army ended up injured and dying and according to statistics shown, the war ended the lives of 176000 people in Afghanistan and 69095 military and police. This shows that the war was okay yet not okay to start.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      wonderful_laboratory's comment 18 Nov 2021

      Well done for pointing out the difference between extremism and Islam, wonderful_laboratory. This is an important thing to do because it helps to fight prejudice.

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  • The Sherwood School mindful_glacier | The Sherwood School | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    I agree that you should not start war, it is a bad thing as it:
    decreases the population of people in the world
    separates familys
    and it is not a nice thing

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    1. Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo flowing_reindeer | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
      mindful_glacier's comment 24 Nov 2021

      i agree but sometimes war needs to happen to save a country that is not doing good

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo exuberant_river | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    It is never right to start war because your disturbing the country's peace or maybe even the world.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      exuberant_river's comment 25 Nov 2021

      What if a war starts to try to protect a peaceful country?

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo skillful_leopard | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    i think war should of happend because if it weren't for the soldier that died for us today we wouldn't be alive they died for us so there could be no more war s i think war should of happend.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo affable_orangutan | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    You shouldn't start a war because it kills people and you only do it for more power and land leads to world domination.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo lovely_hyena | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    In my opinion it is not okay to start a war For example, if it is to stop invaders from entering territory because they will make the country have a hard time , it is okay to begin a war to protect that country or area or to help protect it. As the Taliban began to take control over cities, many people fled the country in terror and the extreme measures they took in attempt to escape the country took the lives of many people.
    This war was okay and not okay in different perspectives. The US, in trying to protect the Afghanistan people, fought a war with the Taliban. However, they ended up sending their troops back and leaving on the 31st of August when they were threatened. Also many people in the army ended up injured and dying and according to statistics shown, the war ended the lives of 176000 people in Afghanistan and 69095 military and police. This shows that the war was okay yet not okay to start.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      lovely_hyena's comment 25 Nov 2021

      In your first paragraph you say that it is not OK to start a war, but then you give an example saying that it is OK to begin a war. Could you explain which you believe more and why?

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo understanding_argument | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    I love Afghanistan it has lots of history and Afghanistan has a very interesting life its amazing.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo calm_performance | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    well if you really need to then yeah for an example maybe if Hitler was drooping bombs or he was crashing down houses then yes you should start a war to protect our country but if hitler isnt doing anything then i would not start a war in my opion well maybe if you need something really really bad then i might start a war only if i needed it really bad in my opion.

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      calm_performance's comment 25 Nov 2021

      For clarification, Adolf Hitler was the leader of Germany during World War Two. Could you try to explain this again without using Hitler as an example, calm_performance?

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo funny_conclusion | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    I think war is a bad thing and I think you should not start war because the population goes down a lot and loads of people get injured but I do get why people think it's a good thing because you won't let your guard down but I do disagree because I don't think it's right to get evacuated from you parents and I don't think war should be a thing.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo ethical_attention | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    I think you should never start a war because It could harm a lot of people not even the ones that are in the war it can harm people that are not in war because there loved ones or family could be in there or it could be a bomb that just drops onto there house, but it always effects the people in war the most as they are the ones that are risking there lives, so over all I really do not think you should start a war.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo frank_shrimp | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    In my opinion I don't think its good to start wars because it could get very very dangerous and what if they do it outside houses? What will everybody do in them houses? Even little children they will have no clur whats going on! Also what if they want to play outside and their parents was cooking or something and the kids would go outside and what if they get shot? Or what if they get bombed! Then the parents would go out to see what happened, then they would see there child on the floor! So, in my opinion I definitely think its not a good idea to start wars.. Also not just that it can decrease the population of people in the world and it can separate familys and its really not nice! Even like the evacuees they must of not been happy about the place being bombed being away from their family! So its not ok to start wars!!

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      frank_shrimp's comment 24 Nov 2021

      Are there any situations where it would be acceptable to start a war?

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo trustful_snow | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    In my opinion war should only be declared at serious matters not cause if you want to get power over the other country's plus this has happened before, WW1 when Hitler declared war for a childish reason war should only be declared for a serious matter.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo assertive_dove | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    In my opinion i think war shouldn't of happened because its a bad thing it separate families and it was a sad thing

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo best_seagull | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    after reading this text i don't think it is OK to start a war.
    before reading this text i was in the middle of deciding weather it was OK to start a war but now i don't think it is OK.
    the reason behind this is because there is a lot of details and the brutality such as for example:'the war sadly claimed the lives of over 176,000 Afghan citizens and made others worried about their future.'' This is the reason i don't think war is correct.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      best_seagull's comment 24 Nov 2021

      Well done for using evidence to support your opinion!

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo highspirited_wolf | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    No, I think that war is not always a good decision to start a war because many people get killed, separated from they're family's and many people have to evacuate. For example Hitler started a war to have more power and money, I think that he should not of started a war for that reason because after World War One he knew that he could do way more. I understand why the Afghanistan war started though because the Taliban tried to take over the country, killing people for not agreeing with they're rules like not letting women go to work, school and not letting them do anything that men can.

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo marvellous_tradition | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    No, its not a right to start a war as you are cable of a lot of things like ;
    you could kill a lot of people,
    You destroy peoples homes,
    separate family
    and its just a terrible thing you are risking peoples life's for stupid things

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo jovial_tangerine | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    I don't think it is EVER a good idea to start a war because civilians could get injured or even get killed. Soldiers could destroy places with battles and nukes could be droppes

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  • Cyfarthfa Park Primary logo digital_thought | Cyfarthfa Park Primary C | United Kingdom
    24 Nov 2021

    By reading this post I think it is definitely NOT okay to start a war.
    War's can kill loads of people and can injure people really REALLY BADLY. Family's could get separated and their newborn kids could get evacuated far far away from their parents. Sometimes I think people want bad stuff to happen to people. Don't start a war!

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