Stereotypes with jobs

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What is a stereotype?

A stereotype is when you assume all people within a group are the same. An example of a stereotype is surgeons are ordinarily men. This is not accurate because anyone can be what they desire to be! Another stereoptye is that only women can be nurses. Gender shouldn't decide a persons job - the skills a person has is typically what is wanted for a job. Also, for example the term 'dinner lady' this means that people think that only women can do this job however - there are alot of men who do this job. People (especially men) who work for a job such as 'dinner ladies' may feel uncomfortable being called this.

Stereotype then and now:

Overtime, stereotypes based on jobs have gradually changed but are still a big issue. Before the World Wars, men would do most of the jobs such as farming and building however, during the World Wars, filled all sorts of jobs, many of them were vulnerable and skilled. They worked in shipyards and drove trams, buses and ambulances. This meant that overtime, these jobs were available to women and men eventually.

What could be one of the issues?

Children learning these terms from younger years may be a cause because they are used to considering a job in that way (fireman). When they hear it another way (firewoman) they may feel that it is incorrect (alot more people use terms such as firefighters but alot still don't.) Using a different term may make them uncomfortable because they are not used to it. Do you think this is what may happen?

By artistic_gooseberry

Comments (16)

  • katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
    06 Nov 2020

    This raises some very interesting questions, artistic_gooseberry. I have awarded you with a star for using your problem-solving skills to think about the issue of stereotypes and for addressing individual parts of the bigger problem, such as what we call certain jobs. You say names of jobs like "dinner lady" might make people feel that only women could do this job. How do you think we could solve this problem?

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  • educated_glockenspiel | Whyteleafe School D
    06 Nov 2020

    is it that every job except nurses are for women?

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      educated_glockenspiel's comment 06 Nov 2020

      What do you think about that?

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  • educated_glockenspiel | Whyteleafe School D
    06 Nov 2020

    We are not sure now as men can do the same jobs. (stereotypes are getting to us!!!)

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      educated_glockenspiel's comment 06 Nov 2020

      Do you think there will be a day when all stereotypes have vanished?

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  • approachable_strategy | Whyteleafe School E
    06 Nov 2020

    I think this is very good gender shouldn't matter

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  • approachable_strategy | Whyteleafe School E
    06 Nov 2020

    We think that steryotypes shouldn't matter because men and woman aren't and worse or better then eachother.

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  • brave_wilddog | Whyteleafe School D
    07 Nov 2020

    Men and women are the same and can do the same jobs as neither genders are better than each other and every job can be done by men and women. Everyone should do what they want to do and not get stereotypes stuck in their mind.
    Thank you artistic_gooseberry a very good post 👍

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  • Cheam Park logo eager_reflection | Cheam Park Farm Primary | United Kingdom
    07 Nov 2020

    Hi artistic_gooseberry,
    I think that stereotypes are very bad as well. Every one should be treated the same, no matter their gender. People shouldn't think that a woman is incapable of doing something a man can do. In fact, they could even do better! One of the bigger issues in the past is salaries. Men are usually paid more than women for most jobs. Let's look at pay for men and women in the present and stereotypes in the past.

    Let's first look at a famous example of stereotypes in the past. During the Victorian era, Florence Nightingale's parents forbid her from pursuing her nursing dream, because it was viewed as low labor by the upper classes, and only men were allowed to do such things. Still, she was determined, and eventually became a nurse. Her efforts paid off, as she was awarded a brooch by Queen Victoria for saving so many lives, and is considered to be the founder of nursing. She proves that anyone can do anything, as long as they are determined and persevere.

    Now let's look at the pay of men and women in the present. Even now, men are paid more than women for doing the same job. The results in 2019 of the gender pay gap showed that 78% of bigger companies in Britain, according to The Independent. The gender pay gap in 2017 showed that median wage for a woman was £1.32 less than men every hour for a full time job. Theresa May, our previous Prime Minister, said: "If you’re a woman, you will earn less than a man.” This was later proved to be true by the Institute for Fiscal Studies on ‘The Gender Wage Gap’, which highlights the significant gap in salary between men and women. Luckily, the gap is now closing, and I think that in a few years the gap of pay between men and women may be close to £0.
    Thanks for reading,
    eager_reflection

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  • Cheam Common logo wondrous_orca | Cheam Common Junior Academy | United Kingdom
    08 Nov 2020

    I think stereotypes are very unfair. Women used to earn less money than men and sometimes they still do. Did you know that if you buy something very expensive, like a car, and you are a women it is possible that you van get a discount. I think that this is completely biased and I think women and men both should be equal.

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  • Allerton-logo-250x250.jpg reasoning_honeydew | Allerton High School
    08 Nov 2020

    This is a brilliant post artistic_gooseberry, as it sheds light on a topic that I feel isn't discussed enough, but is very important. Stereotypes within jobs actually quite annoys me, because it makes a lot of people feel that just because of their gender, they shouldn’t become what they really want to be. But the problem is, everyone grows up learning about these stereotypes, and it can be hard to be told different. I completely agree with you that gender should not decide a person’s job for them, and men who have what some people would think is a ‘feminine’ job, like a nurse or a cleaner, may feel uncomfortable or even embarrassed at what others will think of them for having a ‘girl’s’ job. But what you didn’t mention is how women will feel when they are turned down from a job merely because of their gender. They may be perfect for the job as a doctor, but are turned down because the person they interviewed next was a man, and the interviewer thought that as a man, that person would just be a better fit. I do not think that this is okay, because I think women and men should be treated equally, and not only at work, but all the time and in every situation.
    But what surprises me is, like you said, during the wars when the men went off to fight, the women took over all the jobs like farming and working in different factories. However, after the war, the men returned to their jobs and most women went back to cooking and cleaning and mending in the house. I am glad this led to many women realising that they should be able to work and earn money as well, but unfortunately nothing changed for quite a long time.
    I think that children should be taught the different terms for job titles. Instead of fireman – or adjusting to say firewoman in a specific case – say firefighters. It’s the same with policeman and so many others. I will often find myself automatically making this kind of stereotypical judgement, for example if I went to doctor’s appointment, I might assume I would see a male doctor. The future generations, and our generation, will have to learn in order to always use the correct term, and not make men seem superior to women.

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    1. tom Tom @ Topical Talk
      reasoning_honeydew's comment 09 Nov 2020

      A very well-explained point of view, reasoning_honeydew, and you raise really important points. Do you think things are moving in the right direction quickly enough? There is a very interesting video along the lines of your final reflection on doctors here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-45654320

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  • Upton-Cross-logo-250x250.jpg creative_moth | Upton Cross Primary School | United Kingdom
    10 Nov 2020

    Like reasoning honeydew said
    I want to say this topic is not being discussed about enough.
    Yes SOME individuals in society think a job can only be for one gender which I think is very untrue and unfair.Some people because of this are scared to take a job because society will judge them on a gender.A man was a nurse and people judged him for being one and said it is for girls.Events like this make me wonder why people think like that.A male and female are the same and they have the same capabilities.If people didn’t think like this then many people would come forward for a job.I totally agree with your matter honeydew

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  • hopeful_language | Whyteleafe School D
    10 Nov 2020

    i think that over time gender stereotyping has changed but some people still think that rougher and tougher jobs are for boys and that light and fragile jobs are for girls but boys and girls should feel welcome applying for any job no matter what. I believe that stereotyping




    should stop.

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  • New-Horizons-logo-250x250.jpg serious_night | New Horizons Children's Academy
    11 Nov 2020

    A type of stereotype is that they don’t show all the bad things they just show the good things

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    1. katie.jpg Katie @ Topical Talk
      serious_night's comment 11 Nov 2020

      Could you give an example to explain what you mean, serious_night?

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